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AGM
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I ask again. Why did you delete my post?

cindy
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Because the content in your post was inappropriate. If you want to contribute to strata issues please do but all this competitive nonsense with Jimmy Thomson is old and I am not subjecting my readers to it any longer.

AGM
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I don't get it. Why delete my posts when they are in support of stratalive. Jimmy Thomson is now saying on his site that he has "nearly 900" visits a day. The guy is living in fantasy land. Stats don't lie and there is no way in the world flat chat is getting "almost 900" visits a day. Here are the following stats from leading web information company Alexa:-

Flat-chat.com.au:- Ranked 1,862,749 in the world and 39,813 in Australia. 89 seconds per visit, 1.4 unique pages per day per visit and a 66% bounce rate (one page only.)

Stratalive.com.au:- Ranked 469,904 in the world and 6,024 in Australia. 23 minutes per visit, 11 unique pages per day per visit and 16.9% bounce rate.

I also have a property website as a bit of a sideline and my ranking is far better than flat-chat and I am not getting the visits he claims he is getting.

Jimmy is always having a go at you, on your own site no less. Why would you let him get away with lying about the stats on his site? What was that number again Jimmy? 25,000 visits a month? How stupid do you think we are? And bragging on your site about it no less.

No doubt this post will be deleted as well but get your facts straight. I think it would be safe to drop a "0" off the end. If you were getting that sort of traffic on your site Jimmy, your ranking wouldn't be so pathetic.

If you are going to brag Jimmy, wait until you have something to brag about. I don't think it is right to delete my posts because they are of a competitive nature.

jewel
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Hey AGM, I agree. You shouldn't have your posts deleted. I love this site and I do read Jimmy Thomson's site as well. His forum is OK but I love all the extra stories on here that help me with other issues about apartment living. Besides, those stats are really interesting. I use Alexa all the time. Even though Jimmy didn't say almost 900 "unique" visitors (new visitors), with those rankings it would be a real stretch to be getting that amount of visitors (includes return visitors) a day. To give him the benefit of the doubt - and he is obviously not used to dealing with stats from what he says on his site, he maybe adding his unique visitors to his general visitors and maybe that would make more sense.

I did that before I understood it better. I thought the unique visitors were separate from the visitors so I added them together before I found out the unique visitors were included in the general visitors. That is an understandable mistake to make.

parasite
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A lot depends on what analytics software you are using. This might help:-

Another common misconception in web analytics is that the sum of the new visitors and the repeat visitors ought to be the total number of visitors. Again this becomes clear if the visitors are viewed as individuals on a small scale, but still causes a large number of complaints that analytics software cannot be working because of a failure to understand the metrics.

Here the culprit is the metric of a new visitor. There is really no such thing as a new visitor when you are considering a web site from an ongoing perspective. If a visitor makes their first visit on a given day and then returns to the web site on the same day they are both a new visitor and a repeat visitor for that day. So if we look at them as an individual which are they? The answer has to be both, so the definition of the metric is at fault.

A new visitor is not an individual; it is a fact of the web measurement. For this reason it is easiest to conceptualize the same facet as a first visit (or first session). This resolves the conflict and so removes the confusion. Nobody expects the number of first visits to add to the number of repeat visitors to give the total number of visitors. The metric will have the same number as the new visitors, but it is clearer that it will not add in this fashion.

On the day in question there was a first visit made by our chosen individual. There was also a repeat visit made by the same individual. The number of first visits and the number of repeat visits will add up to the total number of visits for that day.

That clarified, there is still absolutely no way in the world that Flat Chat would be getting anything like 900 visitors a day with the Alexa ranking they have. Alexa is by far the best ranking tool and I checked the stats AGM posted from Alexa and it was pretty much on the mark.

I do however agree with Jewel. If you are not really experienced with analytics, you do have to give the user the benefit of the doubt, in this case Jimmy. That said, unless you understand it really well, you should probably not use the stats at all as it is misleading to the consumer.

Alexa ranking is always the best measure, especially for lay people who do not understand analytics.

cindy
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Fair enough AGM, I will not delete you posts any more but who really cares. Lot owners just want answers and whether they get them from Stratalive or Flat Chat shouldn't matter as long as they get them.

I primarily started Stratalive because there was nowhere for lot owners to go. Jimmy had a "comments" section on his site but no forum. Since I started stratalive and included an interactive forum, Jimmy has done the same. Now he has a forum as well. That's great. The more help lot owners get the better.

So why don't we just leave Jimmy alone and let him get on with running his site. I guarantee consumers couldn't care less about site stats as long as they get their answers.

900 visitors a day or 9000 visitors a day should only matter when you are paying a bucket load for search engine optimisation. And the only reason SEO is important is so people can actually find you. Once found, the consumers just don't really care how much other traffic is coming to your site. Forgetting the he said, she said, the big picture is helping the hundreds of thousands of lot owners who find it difficult to get answers elsewhere. There is more than enough room for two sites to do that.