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Diana
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What is the rule around using Fire Hoses for the purpose of carrying out maintenance and cleaning of the building.

Is it illegal to use the fire hose for the purposes of cleaning?
What are the penalties, and are the penalties enforceable against the individual or the strata complex?

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Diana,

Fire hoses are only able to be used for fire-fighting purposes.

I am not sure what the penalties are but I imagine that it would be enforceable against the individual caught using the hose.

There are interlocks for hoses that make the hose difficult to use for just cleaning, etc (has to be broken). I would suggest investigating interlocks through a fire company if there is an issue with fire hoses being used.

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The obligation to ensure a common property fire hose is properly maintained, and the potential downside liability if it fails when needed, might be considered good reasons to ensure that they are only ever used for their intended purpose anyway (however I am not aware of any specific penalties for the use of a privately owned fire-hose for non-fire-fighting purposes).

Most private hose reels are connected to the domestic metered water supply. If you are within a Sydney Water area I believe their water use rules contain penalties for using fire-hoses for maintenance purposes.

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Daniel Russell
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Daniel Russell - Mills Oakley Lawyers wrote:
The obligation to ensure a common property fire hose is properly maintained, and the potential downside liability if it fails when needed, might be considered good reasons to ensure that they are only ever used for their intended purpose anyway (however I am not aware of any specific penalties for the use of a privately owned fire-hose for non-fire-fighting purposes).

Most private hose reels are connected to the domestic metered water supply. If you are within a Sydney Water area I believe their water use rules contain penalties for using fire-hoses for maintenance purposes.

Best regards,
Daniel Russell
Mills Oakley Lawyers

What he said,
We often see fire hoses used for things other than fighting fires, as mentioned in the above post the liklihood of the Hose Reel being damaged from regular and perhaps misuse means that it really is something that should be enforced by Owners Corporation particularly as it is the responsibility of the O/C to ensure it is working and maintained at all times.

I would not recommend installing locks, the locks usually installed on Fire Hydrant Mains are to lock it in the on position, not at the individual fixture or valve off, if there was a fire and it hindered the use of the equipment then there could be recourse.

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Fire Hose Reels are on the Metered Water Service so the water is all paid for, that is generally the reason for Sydney Water or any other Authority for that matter (to protest their income earning assets)preventing use.

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jethro
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Hello folks I'm new to this forum and would like some clarification to this original post.....

The apartment that we live in NSW and I'm part of the body Corp, has now officially notified me that if I use the fire hose reel again to wash out my garage (which I do about very 3 months) they will be forced to proceed with taking legal action? I must state that when I do use this hose I use in accordance to the instructions i.e. neatly rolled back up after use with water pressure still on yadda, yadda, yadda.
I'd just like to clarify what if any the legal ramifications are ?
Thanks in advanced,
Jethro

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Hi, Generally the hose reel usage is covered by the local water authority which restricts the use of a fire hose reel due to the water supply. If the water supply is running of a fire main either on its own or with a hydrant system, you should find that you cannot use the water from the hose reel unless you get permission from the water supplier, if it is metered or not. Getting this approval will generally be impossible.

The Workplace Heath and Safety Act used to have a section stating that you cannot interfere with a piece of emergency equipment however that was lost with the new act last year.

Hose reels on domestic supply are a grey area. Most legislation states that the hose reel must be maintained to the standards. There is nothing in the standards regarding usage.

I would suggest seeking advice from your local water supplier. Also from the local fire authority however make sure you get the responses in writing as you are never sure if you are getting correct information form these departments.

Also bear in mind that these reels are not designed for constant use and the goose-neck will loosen up and o rings deteriorate quicker under constant use. Also if you are going to continue using it then please make sure it is returned to full operational position in its interlock and all water then removed form the hose. Good Luck

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This is very healthy stuff and this is also very helpful during any calamity occurs like fire in the homes and houses.